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Mystic Square hard logs + Scoring notes
Feb. 19th, 2016 01:09 am[0:35:00] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: tfw you play something so long you figure out new grazes at stuff and die tons of tons trying to execute them
[0:36:21] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: MS is interesting, I should just stick to the grazes and routes I had before I tried this, getting a run with those is already a task on itself. The ones I figured are silly
[0:38:14] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: basically, I found a graze at the stage 1 midboss that's kind of way too tough to execute so never do that, there's one at the spawning orbs before Yumeko; Yumeko's second pattern can also be grazed but if you do that you want to die.
[0:38:46] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: I remember that Shinki's opener can be grazed too, but it's useless to graze that as it's hard and you maximize it in the pattern after anyways, it's just completely useless.
[0:39:08] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: the greenlasergraze at Yumeko is kind of simple to do; reels in a bit of graze, too.
[0:39:33] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: the midboss can be grazed but as far as I got of it it's generally better to finish it off after grazing it a little to collect the point items in the spam after.
[0:40:07] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: stage 5 should be able to get 999 graze without actually skipping a large portion of the spam
[0:40:47] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: since Yumeko second and third pattern can definitely give a bit too, but you need to be a madman to do the second one. There's also the semi-final one which can be stalled just a little, but I think that all in all just getting close to max is already cancerous to do.
[0:41:15] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: I just end up trying silly stuff I think about, might want to store those notes somewhere.
[0:41:38] Nazrin's Zengeku is a perverted rat butt appreciator!: Kurumiblog :D
[0:41:54] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: I do have that! Kuruminism is great but it's just my own blog but I can spread it and stuff!
[0:42:03] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: I need to elaborate more on the grazes if I do that
but the grazes Zil advised me are pretty much more important, the spawning orb graze before Yumeko can be exploited though for about 50 graze.
Guess that I''ll just stay to the recommended grazes and the route I think is appropriate + Alice mirrorcircling.
[0:48:13] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: tbh the spawning graze is incredibly easy to mess up
[0:48:33] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: 50 graze translates to about 500k score iirc
[0:49:15] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: if you lose a life that's a bit more of a loss due to needing to refill dream bonus, after power. I am not sure how much of a loss it is but it's definitelty noticable.
[0:50:58] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: So it's probably only something for later, it's a pretty fun graze though.
Essentionally, stage 1 enemies can be grazed a little, mainly following Zil's route for a bit with minor adaptions. you can stand at the midboss to graze it, although I usually just speedkill it because the enemies after get the dreambonus up faster; you get more point items too. Notable is that the graze kind of is only feasible if the white bullets aren't fired in your direction (they rotate around the fairy.) I do graze Sara, which can lead to close to 400 graze, trying to bullet clear the final after the 4th wave usually leads to around 600-800k bullet clear; I can get close to 11m at best, I still do believe I can get that if I get dream bonus full early and get aroud 60-62 point items, while exploiting the grazes correctly.
Stage 2 is essentionally trying get as many point items, it's quite random where they fall, at Louise you want to graze her opener for 999 graze; then get a good bullet clear at it by shooting down the red wave. After that casual NMNB trying to get some fine bullet clears and good point item collection.
Stage 3, essentionally using Zil's route, doing a graze on the stage 3 midboss should give a bit over 200 graze; at Alice you can graze her quite long during each phase, first and fourth being the hardest, with second and third being very grazeable, notable is that mirror grazes are important too. If you do the first pattern you can get 999 graze before fourth mirror and just shoot the mirror for a bigger bullet clear. Notable to mention is that you want to wait a little with finishing off the final pattern so that the little white bullets are all over the screen, just a few seconds will do.
Stage 4 is essentionally Zil's route, you want to graze Yuki&Mai for a bit too in terms of scoring, I kind of don't bother trying to finish them off until one explodes at the end of the last phase, which, you can graze for very long (they have a long timer before one explodes.) Of course, you can also graze for a while; then finish off if you think you got enough graze to maximise it at the boss you get after, I do not think it really makes difference, but it is probably a little safer than to risk grazing it for long, it's a scary pattern to graze.
Stage 5, not much can be said except "THIS IS CANCEROUS" - ZM (Although about UFO, it perfectly fits stage 5.) The stage is just really derphappy, dying is easy to do while you move around the entire time trying to get as much point items as possible without dying, which is possible but you can easily randomly die. Also you can easily have bad point item collection too. The midboss can be grazed, the first pattern is essentionally standing on front of it and moving a little down, it is quite generous and gives a bit of graze. the green laser wave has been hitting me more often than it should in practice runs making me want to scream it out, but I'll hold my screaming inside, screaming internally. I tend to graze it until 500 to 700 graze and then finish it off at the green laser spam, which can give 2m if planned well, after you get the spam which essentionally is trying to collect point items as well as possible without dying, quite tough to see them, even tougher to not stupidly die. After that, the spawning orbs, you can stand in front (a little to the right but close to it) of the position the bulletring comes from; then move down a little bit to the right and move up; down; up; down. Essentionally at highest it can give about 54 graze which roughly translates to 540k, I would argue that it's really deathly and shouldn't be tried if you maximise graze anyways or aren't at that point. Yumeko is cancerous, you can finish off her first pattern fast by standing close to her during the swords since she can't hit you with them if you're in front of her during the first pattern. The second one? You can graze the red waves but you need to be a madman to try that and succesfully do that, too. So you want to just finish it off for the sake of safety (which, if you don't die leads to more score than trying to graze that; die to it anyways which is quite logical.) you kind of want to hold max dream bonus for score in the next stage, so not dying is of priority at Yumeko. mainly NMNB to be specific, the pattern after can be done 7 times and it gives a good bit of graze too, it's not hard to do either. Then after that you have the terrible second secondstream waves, with the lasers, which're kowaii and should be finished off fast, just don't do anything, don't even try to graze like I disrecommend during the first streamingwaves, it's just going to kill you and leave you being annoyed. The pattern after can be grazed a little by exploiting it for a few waves, although you can already have 999 graze by there, so I wouldn't worry too much about trying it (it shouldn't be hard, actually.) the final pattern? wait a little with finishing her off so there isn't a gap during the bullet clear, then finishing her off gives a little bit more score in the bullet clear.
Stage 6 is kind of the final stage, not much hard things, I guess that Zil's route for the portion really is the best, I haven't yet tried this stage but from what I saw it shouldn't be tough. I do remember that Shinki can be grazed during the first pattern, the petals, don't do it though. It gives about nothing and is useless, the second pattern has the infamous luckgraze which easily maximizes your graze so the first one is completely useless, just NMNB the stage with those strats you should be fine, actually, just NMNB the game with all those strats and you'll be fine. Just don't do the ones that aren't necessary as I mentioned. (the Yuki&Mai final graze gives quite a bit of score, but is very scary and can be pretty deadly. ;___;)
[0:36:21] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: MS is interesting, I should just stick to the grazes and routes I had before I tried this, getting a run with those is already a task on itself. The ones I figured are silly
[0:38:14] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: basically, I found a graze at the stage 1 midboss that's kind of way too tough to execute so never do that, there's one at the spawning orbs before Yumeko; Yumeko's second pattern can also be grazed but if you do that you want to die.
[0:38:46] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: I remember that Shinki's opener can be grazed too, but it's useless to graze that as it's hard and you maximize it in the pattern after anyways, it's just completely useless.
[0:39:08] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: the greenlasergraze at Yumeko is kind of simple to do; reels in a bit of graze, too.
[0:39:33] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: the midboss can be grazed but as far as I got of it it's generally better to finish it off after grazing it a little to collect the point items in the spam after.
[0:40:07] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: stage 5 should be able to get 999 graze without actually skipping a large portion of the spam
[0:40:47] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: since Yumeko second and third pattern can definitely give a bit too, but you need to be a madman to do the second one. There's also the semi-final one which can be stalled just a little, but I think that all in all just getting close to max is already cancerous to do.
[0:41:15] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: I just end up trying silly stuff I think about, might want to store those notes somewhere.
[0:41:38] Nazrin's Zengeku is a perverted rat butt appreciator!: Kurumiblog :D
[0:41:54] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: I do have that! Kuruminism is great but it's just my own blog but I can spread it and stuff!
[0:42:03] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: I need to elaborate more on the grazes if I do that
but the grazes Zil advised me are pretty much more important, the spawning orb graze before Yumeko can be exploited though for about 50 graze.
Guess that I''ll just stay to the recommended grazes and the route I think is appropriate + Alice mirrorcircling.
[0:48:13] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: tbh the spawning graze is incredibly easy to mess up
[0:48:33] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: 50 graze translates to about 500k score iirc
[0:49:15] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: if you lose a life that's a bit more of a loss due to needing to refill dream bonus, after power. I am not sure how much of a loss it is but it's definitelty noticable.
[0:50:58] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: So it's probably only something for later, it's a pretty fun graze though.
Essentionally, stage 1 enemies can be grazed a little, mainly following Zil's route for a bit with minor adaptions. you can stand at the midboss to graze it, although I usually just speedkill it because the enemies after get the dreambonus up faster; you get more point items too. Notable is that the graze kind of is only feasible if the white bullets aren't fired in your direction (they rotate around the fairy.) I do graze Sara, which can lead to close to 400 graze, trying to bullet clear the final after the 4th wave usually leads to around 600-800k bullet clear; I can get close to 11m at best, I still do believe I can get that if I get dream bonus full early and get aroud 60-62 point items, while exploiting the grazes correctly.
Stage 2 is essentionally trying get as many point items, it's quite random where they fall, at Louise you want to graze her opener for 999 graze; then get a good bullet clear at it by shooting down the red wave. After that casual NMNB trying to get some fine bullet clears and good point item collection.
Stage 3, essentionally using Zil's route, doing a graze on the stage 3 midboss should give a bit over 200 graze; at Alice you can graze her quite long during each phase, first and fourth being the hardest, with second and third being very grazeable, notable is that mirror grazes are important too. If you do the first pattern you can get 999 graze before fourth mirror and just shoot the mirror for a bigger bullet clear. Notable to mention is that you want to wait a little with finishing off the final pattern so that the little white bullets are all over the screen, just a few seconds will do.
Stage 4 is essentionally Zil's route, you want to graze Yuki&Mai for a bit too in terms of scoring, I kind of don't bother trying to finish them off until one explodes at the end of the last phase, which, you can graze for very long (they have a long timer before one explodes.) Of course, you can also graze for a while; then finish off if you think you got enough graze to maximise it at the boss you get after, I do not think it really makes difference, but it is probably a little safer than to risk grazing it for long, it's a scary pattern to graze.
Stage 5, not much can be said except "THIS IS CANCEROUS" - ZM (Although about UFO, it perfectly fits stage 5.) The stage is just really derphappy, dying is easy to do while you move around the entire time trying to get as much point items as possible without dying, which is possible but you can easily randomly die. Also you can easily have bad point item collection too. The midboss can be grazed, the first pattern is essentionally standing on front of it and moving a little down, it is quite generous and gives a bit of graze. the green laser wave has been hitting me more often than it should in practice runs making me want to scream it out, but I'll hold my screaming inside, screaming internally. I tend to graze it until 500 to 700 graze and then finish it off at the green laser spam, which can give 2m if planned well, after you get the spam which essentionally is trying to collect point items as well as possible without dying, quite tough to see them, even tougher to not stupidly die. After that, the spawning orbs, you can stand in front (a little to the right but close to it) of the position the bulletring comes from; then move down a little bit to the right and move up; down; up; down. Essentionally at highest it can give about 54 graze which roughly translates to 540k, I would argue that it's really deathly and shouldn't be tried if you maximise graze anyways or aren't at that point. Yumeko is cancerous, you can finish off her first pattern fast by standing close to her during the swords since she can't hit you with them if you're in front of her during the first pattern. The second one? You can graze the red waves but you need to be a madman to try that and succesfully do that, too. So you want to just finish it off for the sake of safety (which, if you don't die leads to more score than trying to graze that; die to it anyways which is quite logical.) you kind of want to hold max dream bonus for score in the next stage, so not dying is of priority at Yumeko. mainly NMNB to be specific, the pattern after can be done 7 times and it gives a good bit of graze too, it's not hard to do either. Then after that you have the terrible second secondstream waves, with the lasers, which're kowaii and should be finished off fast, just don't do anything, don't even try to graze like I disrecommend during the first streamingwaves, it's just going to kill you and leave you being annoyed. The pattern after can be grazed a little by exploiting it for a few waves, although you can already have 999 graze by there, so I wouldn't worry too much about trying it (it shouldn't be hard, actually.) the final pattern? wait a little with finishing her off so there isn't a gap during the bullet clear, then finishing her off gives a little bit more score in the bullet clear.
Stage 6 is kind of the final stage, not much hard things, I guess that Zil's route for the portion really is the best, I haven't yet tried this stage but from what I saw it shouldn't be tough. I do remember that Shinki can be grazed during the first pattern, the petals, don't do it though. It gives about nothing and is useless, the second pattern has the infamous luckgraze which easily maximizes your graze so the first one is completely useless, just NMNB the stage with those strats you should be fine, actually, just NMNB the game with all those strats and you'll be fine. Just don't do the ones that aren't necessary as I mentioned. (the Yuki&Mai final graze gives quite a bit of score, but is very scary and can be pretty deadly. ;___;)
